much as possible. they are able to approach the people who they live among more easily, yet they may also understand the risks and be more reluctant to be parts of these programs, too. >> well, they are more vulnerable. i mean, when i give that figure of 305 casualties in 2011, the majority of those were among local staff, local people, local workers: so it's, in fact, not a solution to say, well, we're going to have expatriots out in some safe place and we're going to have the local people taking the risk. they're willing to take the risk just as we may be but they're equally subject. in other words, the fact that they're from the community doesn't necessarily make them safer. >> suarez: does this send a shill? this incident in pakistan, through a much wider set of relationships? >> i think so, absolutely.